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| #19208 | 09/25/2022 12:37:01 pm | Jan 13th, 2028 | |
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admin Joined: 01/24/2017 Posts: 2517 Hardwood Administrator 
| Starting next season, there will be greater yearly training various. This will make it somewhat more difficult to just linearly extrapolate future player values and development. But better models how some player tend to blow up and other players development stalls IRL. Steve |
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| #19210 | 09/26/2022 6:49:31 am | Jan 13th, 2028 | |
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naph Joined: 02/29/2020 Posts: 607 St. Marys Gaels II.1 
| I'm curious how this works with both potential and with the scouted comments. 1) Will the comments still be as accurate as they used to be? So some guys might take longer to get to their better comments, some guys shorter, but the attributes still will max out in the same range? 2) Are higher potential players still likely to develop faster? Or is potential more of a skills cap, rather than an indicator of rate of improvement? |
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| #19211 | 09/26/2022 7:38:16 am | Jan 13th, 2028 | |
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TavesSoul Joined: 06/25/2020 Posts: 149 Nazareth Golden Flyers V.16 
| 3) Does this mean we might see Potential change for a player over time (ie. a 12 POT becomes a 13 POT or a 11 POT depending on this variance)? Very interesting change to the game either way. |
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| #19212 | 09/26/2022 7:55:35 am | Jan 13th, 2028 | |
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gards710 Joined: 05/17/2020 Posts: 464 Dominican Univ. of California Penguins I.1 
| Great questions so far. My question is in regards to which generation we will see this in first. Is it for players that are already on our college teams, the HS SRs, only newly generated players? |
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| #19214 | 09/27/2022 12:08:27 pm | Jan 20th, 2028 | |
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admin Joined: 01/24/2017 Posts: 2517 Hardwood Administrator
| 1. Yes 2. Yes 3. No change to Potential. 4. Just to make the game more challenging and less predictable. Steve Updated Tuesday, September 27 2022 @ 12:09:08 pm PDT |
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| #19219 | 09/28/2022 11:26:11 pm | Jan 22nd, 2028 | |
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gards710 Joined: 05/17/2020 Posts: 464 Dominican Univ. of California Penguins I.1
| I'd like to clarify my question. I want to know when/with which class we will see these effects take place? I ask because we've recruited and signed and rostered players using the previous, more predictable, model. And if this will affect players that we have invested in, that might cause some big changes that some may not be thrilled with. |
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| #19220 | 09/29/2022 7:49:05 am | Jan 22nd, 2028 | |
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admin Joined: 01/24/2017 Posts: 2517 Hardwood Administrator
| It will start for all players next season. Steve |
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| #19227 | 10/03/2022 8:02:10 am | Feb 5th, 2028 | |
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electriceel883 Joined: 06/07/2021 Posts: 134 Wisconsin Badgers II.1 
| Is player height one of the values to be made more unpredictable? | ||
| #19237 | 10/06/2022 9:06:12 pm | Feb 19th, 2028 | |
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admin Joined: 01/24/2017 Posts: 2517 Hardwood Administrator
| No...height and other physical development is not effected. Steve |
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| #19238 | 10/07/2022 9:46:10 am | Feb 19th, 2028 | |
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RupaScoop Joined: 03/21/2021 Posts: 45 Inactive 
| So my understanding is we won't be able to predict how guys will develop? imo that takes a big chunk of the fun of the game away, to the point I may no longer be interested in playing. Sorry, don't mean to be rude, I love this game, but scouring for players and projecting how they'll turn out is my favorite part. Without that it becomes more like GM Games or something. No offense intended Steve, really have enjoyed this game for a long time, it's fantastic. One thought: would it be possible to give us more tools to develop players? Or more philosophies? Like playing guys in the right positions, individual development controls, etc? Maybe the better dev you have in your coaches the more training sessions you can have? Updated Friday, October 7 2022 @ 9:52:11 am PDT |
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| #19240 | 10/07/2022 10:59:53 am | Feb 24th, 2028 | |
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James Lebron Joined: 08/17/2021 Posts: 34 Florida Southern Moccasins IV.3 
| I agree with RupaScoop. With the increased competition for good or even just descent recruits that turn out good as the teams star adding this in will make it be even harder for teams (especially teams in the lower divisions) to acquire good players that will make their teams be competitive. As an example, try getting a good or even a descent tall player above 6-9? Doing that is not easy with the added competition and I'm not complaining about the competition from other humans. If I have a crappy team thats ok with me, it's my fault for not putting enough time in to it or planning properly, but it would be nice to have full confidence that at least one or two of your recruits will turn in to the teams star.. All in the name of making this be more of a GM game that tries to mimic a real life sport. Which will never happen by the way. If you want more realism why not put all of the teams in to their real life divisions / conferences? Having a game that encourages advancement in to higher and better divisions or leagues and taking away or reducing the possibility to do that doesn't seem to be a very good tactic to retaining players........ Updated Friday, October 7 2022 @ 11:02:01 am PDT |
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| #19241 | 10/07/2022 4:19:29 pm | Feb 24th, 2028 | |
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g10rsh-2 Joined: 05/29/2021 Posts: 8 Illinois Wesleyan Titans II.1 
| It sounds like the top end isn't changing for any skill a player has, but the amount they will gain year to year will be have more variance. projection will still be possible but will be more fuzzy. if a HS FR shoots up in some skills and stalls in others, the next year they may be slower, or just as fast. I think the same projection principles will apply, but if you want to look at development speed to estimate maxes, each extra year will give a more data of how they are trending. |
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| #19242 | 10/07/2022 4:29:27 pm | Feb 24th, 2028 | |
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Stromstar Joined: 09/05/2022 Posts: 30 Xavier Musketeers I.1 
| I love when a game has some hidden X-Factor within the players. Just a little variance makes the game more realistic. 4-star recruits can often not live up to the hype (Josiah Turner, Anthony Bennett) and others went overlooked and proved their worth later on (Chef, Norris Cole) | ||
| #19243 | 10/07/2022 6:34:55 pm | Feb 24th, 2028 | |
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admin Joined: 01/24/2017 Posts: 2517 Hardwood Administrator
| The key word here is the variance is increasing, the mean is not changing. Steve |
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| #19245 | 10/08/2022 4:22:57 am | Feb 24th, 2028 | |
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electriceel883 Joined: 06/07/2021 Posts: 134 Wisconsin Badgers II.1
| So the usual occurrence where a player typically gains at a much more rapid rate earlier in his college career may change to a slower growth in the beginning for some players, or a much more rapid growth later for some upperclassmen? So the historical growth rates have much less value (or none)? | ||
| #19247 | 10/10/2022 6:06:16 pm | Mar 4th, 2028 | |
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El jefe Joined: 07/06/2018 Posts: 706 Temple Owls I.1 
| I'm understanding it as this (simplistic example): Player 1, 11 POT Current system HS FR - 40 SI HS SO - 55 SI HS JR - 70 SI HS SR - 85 SI COLL FR - 100 SI COLL SO - 115 SI COLL JR - 130 SI COLL SR - 145 SI New System HS FR - 40 SI HS SO - 60 SI HS JR - 70 SI HS SR - 92 SI COLL FR - 109 SI COLL SO - 129 SI COLL JR - 135 SI COLL SR - 145 SI So the "mean" SI increase is the same (and ending point in this example) but the journey to get there is much higher variance from year-to-year |
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| #19251 | 10/11/2022 10:14:25 am | Mar 9th, 2028 | |
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RupaScoop Joined: 03/21/2021 Posts: 45 Inactive
| Ah okay I see. | ||
| #19252 | 10/12/2022 9:29:15 pm | Mar 10th, 2028 | |
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admin Joined: 01/24/2017 Posts: 2517 Hardwood Administrator
| Good example El jefe! Steve |
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| #19254 | 10/13/2022 10:39:38 am | Mar 11th, 2028 | |
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RupaScoop Joined: 03/21/2021 Posts: 45 Inactive
| Ah okay I see. | ||
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